Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ?

Jncominco2 · 02-20-2008, 12:30 PM

ok well ive been thinkin
im not sure i really want to get out a good size loan for another car
so i was just wondering your guys's input on this
if i did a B18C1 swap in my car, then turboed it
how reliable do you think it would be?
the boost would be low of course until it is somewhat built
but i just dont want to be 9-15k in debt
ill be spending like 6-7k probably to get the engine and turbo and all that fun stuff
maybe even more
but it will be one step at a time
and i need it as a daily driver too
so yeah
just let me know

John@ProStreet · 02-20-2008, 12:36 PM

very reliable if done right, theres plenty of guys on here that have done the same work you just outlined and many of them right out of our own shop. 95 percent of it is your tuner. Find a reputable one and you'll be good

Jncominco2 · 02-20-2008, 12:38 PM

well where can i find one?
i know a guy at work that could probably get it tuned for me down in SLC
but the guy will probably charge up the butt for it

John@ProStreet · 02-20-2008, 12:42 PM

i would not recommend "a guy" id find a good honda tuner with HANDS ON experience with Hondata / Krome / Neptune. Looks like you are in Utah, theres a TON of fast honda guys there with lots of experience tuning standalones.

Jncominco2 · 02-20-2008, 12:45 PM

well its not just "a guy"
a kid at my work is good friends with a guy in SLC who has one of the fastest hondas
its a 9.6 second or so hatch
his name is Buck
and he did all the work on the guy at my works car
or i could just buy his car for 9k
its a 00 SI
8k in mods
mostly built
runs low to mid 13's
pretty quick

or would you say i build mine?

John@ProStreet · 02-20-2008, 12:49 PM

build your own is my suggestion. Not to burst your bubble but tuning is the single most important part of your build. Dont skimp on it. find someone that has experience and a dyno and can back up their work. 9.6 is also not very fast for Hondas anymore. was in 98, not in 08

Jncominco2 · 02-20-2008, 12:52 PM

:O what does the fastest honda run then?
and i dont skimp on anything
i tend to do everything the right way...most secure way
and usually ends up to be the most expensive way
so how would i go about finding a tuner?
and a B18C1 will drop right in to my car right? i was going to buy it from hmotorsonline if i do it, if i get the complete change over, that should just be plug and play pretty much right?

John@ProStreet · 02-20-2008, 01:20 PM

a b18c1 will not just bolt in, you will need a few different mounts for this swap, are you concerned about smog / registration? if so you will need even more parts.

Jncominco2 · 02-20-2008, 01:21 PM

yes it needs to pass emissions and registration
i need it to run like a champ
and pass all tests with flying colors
i cant be concerned with getting more tickets or anything lol

John@ProStreet · 02-20-2008, 02:27 PM

For Emissions, you will have to do some homework on that front. I am not familiar with the rules in UT, but in CA you

1. need to swap in a motor thats newer than the car you are swapping into
2. all smog equipment must go motor and swap, EGR valve, and evap assemblies
3. You must run the same year and model ECU from that motor
4. a state ref must inspect it

Thats what you need if you are swapping motors here in CA to drive without getting a ticket. barring all that nonsense though, a b16 or older GSR motor will be cheap and easy to swap into your car. Heres what you need :

Mounts : a combination of stock 99 Si and Integra or Del Sol Vtec Mounts and brackets can be used if a hydraulic B series tranny is used.

ECU : p30 from the 96-97 Del sol Vtec is easiest, only a few of the 99-00 civics need the 99-00 Si ECU. Chipped P28 can be used if a OBDII to OBDI harness is used.

Axles: 90-93 integra axles, 94-up integra axles, 94-97 Del Sol Vtec axles, or 99-00 Civic Si

MISC :
radiator hoses from a del sol or gsr, depending on what motor you are talking about
throttle cable from a 92 gsr

A/C you will need the 96-97 AC bracket.

hope this helps

Jncominco2 · 02-20-2008, 03:32 PM

so if I did get it off of hmotors, besides what came in that
where would I find the additional parts?
or possibly off password jdm

86_Notch · 02-20-2008, 05:09 PM

sounds like an aweful lot of work only to end up with a 13 sec car, for 7 grand you could buy a nice 12 sec mustang and be more reliable then your turbo civic

GSRTURBO · 02-20-2008, 05:22 PM

jnco you can find complete swaps available from a lot of vendors like importparts or imotorsusa. they even have complete swaps from mounts, to linkage etc available. let me know if you ever need some advise and i can help you out. good luck

GSRTURBO · 02-20-2008, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86_Notch

sounds like an aweful lot of work only to end up with a 13 sec car, for 7 grand you could buy a nice 12 sec mustang and be more reliable then your turbo civic

maybe because he doesnt want staples in his door

Jncominco2 · 02-20-2008, 05:45 PM

doesn't hmotors give you a complete swap?
if not, how much is a gsr full swap from the other places?
I'm at work ATM

02-20-2008, 12:30 PM	#1
Jncominco2 Subies are the shiz! 02 Subaru WRX My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah (ugh) Posts: 2,541	Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? ok well ive been thinkin im not sure i really want to get out a good size loan for another car so i was just wondering your guys's input on this if i did a B18C1 swap in my car, then turboed it how reliable do you think it would be? the boost would be low of course until it is somewhat built but i just dont want to be 9-15k in debt ill be spending like 6-7k probably to get the engine and turbo and all that fun stuff maybe even more but it will be one step at a time and i need it as a daily driver too so yeah just let me know __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jncominco2

02-20-2008, 12:36 PM	#2
John@ProStreet Super Moderator 2008 Corvette Z06 My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FIT Posts: 611	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? very reliable if done right, theres plenty of guys on here that have done the same work you just outlined and many of them right out of our own shop. 95 percent of it is your tuner. Find a reputable one and you'll be good __________________ Pro Street Motorsports www.prostreetonline.com Ultimate Street Car??? Pro Street Motorsports 2007 Synthetic Oil Shootout Ride of the Month!! WIN 100 DOLLARS!!

02-20-2008, 12:38 PM	#3
Jncominco2 Subies are the shiz! 02 Subaru WRX My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah (ugh) Posts: 2,541	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? well where can i find one? i know a guy at work that could probably get it tuned for me down in SLC but the guy will probably charge up the butt for it __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jncominco2

02-20-2008, 12:42 PM	#4
John@ProStreet Super Moderator 2008 Corvette Z06 My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FIT Posts: 611	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? i would not recommend "a guy" id find a good honda tuner with HANDS ON experience with Hondata / Krome / Neptune. Looks like you are in Utah, theres a TON of fast honda guys there with lots of experience tuning standalones. __________________ Pro Street Motorsports www.prostreetonline.com Ultimate Street Car??? Pro Street Motorsports 2007 Synthetic Oil Shootout Ride of the Month!! WIN 100 DOLLARS!!

02-20-2008, 12:45 PM	#5
Jncominco2 Subies are the shiz! 02 Subaru WRX My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah (ugh) Posts: 2,541	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? well its not just "a guy" a kid at my work is good friends with a guy in SLC who has one of the fastest hondas its a 9.6 second or so hatch his name is Buck and he did all the work on the guy at my works car or i could just buy his car for 9k its a 00 SI 8k in mods mostly built runs low to mid 13's pretty quick or would you say i build mine? __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jncominco2

02-20-2008, 12:49 PM	#6
John@ProStreet Super Moderator 2008 Corvette Z06 My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FIT Posts: 611	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? build your own is my suggestion. Not to burst your bubble but tuning is the single most important part of your build. Dont skimp on it. find someone that has experience and a dyno and can back up their work. 9.6 is also not very fast for Hondas anymore. was in 98, not in 08 __________________ Pro Street Motorsports www.prostreetonline.com Ultimate Street Car??? Pro Street Motorsports 2007 Synthetic Oil Shootout Ride of the Month!! WIN 100 DOLLARS!!

02-20-2008, 12:52 PM	#7
Jncominco2 Subies are the shiz! 02 Subaru WRX My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah (ugh) Posts: 2,541	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? :O what does the fastest honda run then? and i dont skimp on anything i tend to do everything the right way...most secure way and usually ends up to be the most expensive way so how would i go about finding a tuner? and a B18C1 will drop right in to my car right? i was going to buy it from hmotorsonline if i do it, if i get the complete change over, that should just be plug and play pretty much right? __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jncominco2

02-20-2008, 01:20 PM	#8
John@ProStreet Super Moderator 2008 Corvette Z06 My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FIT Posts: 611	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? a b18c1 will not just bolt in, you will need a few different mounts for this swap, are you concerned about smog / registration? if so you will need even more parts. __________________ Pro Street Motorsports www.prostreetonline.com Ultimate Street Car??? Pro Street Motorsports 2007 Synthetic Oil Shootout Ride of the Month!! WIN 100 DOLLARS!!

02-20-2008, 01:21 PM	#9
Jncominco2 Subies are the shiz! 02 Subaru WRX My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah (ugh) Posts: 2,541	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? yes it needs to pass emissions and registration i need it to run like a champ and pass all tests with flying colors i cant be concerned with getting more tickets or anything lol __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jncominco2

02-20-2008, 02:27 PM	#10
John@ProStreet Super Moderator 2008 Corvette Z06 My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FIT Posts: 611	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? For Emissions, you will have to do some homework on that front. I am not familiar with the rules in UT, but in CA you 1. need to swap in a motor thats newer than the car you are swapping into 2. all smog equipment must go motor and swap, EGR valve, and evap assemblies 3. You must run the same year and model ECU from that motor 4. a state ref must inspect it Thats what you need if you are swapping motors here in CA to drive without getting a ticket. barring all that nonsense though, a b16 or older GSR motor will be cheap and easy to swap into your car. Heres what you need : Mounts : a combination of stock 99 Si and Integra or Del Sol Vtec Mounts and brackets can be used if a hydraulic B series tranny is used. ECU : p30 from the 96-97 Del sol Vtec is easiest, only a few of the 99-00 civics need the 99-00 Si ECU. Chipped P28 can be used if a OBDII to OBDI harness is used. Axles: 90-93 integra axles, 94-up integra axles, 94-97 Del Sol Vtec axles, or 99-00 Civic Si MISC : radiator hoses from a del sol or gsr, depending on what motor you are talking about throttle cable from a 92 gsr A/C you will need the 96-97 AC bracket. hope this helps __________________ Pro Street Motorsports www.prostreetonline.com Ultimate Street Car??? Pro Street Motorsports 2007 Synthetic Oil Shootout Ride of the Month!! WIN 100 DOLLARS!!

02-20-2008, 03:32 PM	#11
Jncominco2 Subies are the shiz! 02 Subaru WRX My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah (ugh) Posts: 2,541	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? so if I did get it off of hmotors, besides what came in that where would I find the additional parts? or possibly off password jdm __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jncominco2

02-20-2008, 05:09 PM	#12
86_Notch Nitrous God 86 mustang My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,168	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? sounds like an aweful lot of work only to end up with a 13 sec car, for 7 grand you could buy a nice 12 sec mustang and be more reliable then your turbo civic __________________ __________________________ \|.....Overnight.........................\| \|\| \|........Parts From Japan.............\|\|'\|";,___ \|_..._...____________======\|\|_\|_\|...,..] "(@)'(@)''''''''''''''''''''''''\|(@)(@)****" (@)

02-20-2008, 05:22 PM	#13
GSRTURBO Im bringing sexay back 1992 Honda Civic - Turbo B18c1 My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,575	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? jnco you can find complete swaps available from a lot of vendors like importparts or imotorsusa. they even have complete swaps from mounts, to linkage etc available. let me know if you ever need some advise and i can help you out. good luck __________________ -Brandon DD '92 Civic VX - B18C1 swap - 8spi t04r

02-20-2008, 05:45 PM	#15
Jncominco2 Subies are the shiz! 02 Subaru WRX My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah (ugh) Posts: 2,541	Re: Reliability on a swapped & turboed civ? doesn't hmotors give you a complete swap? if not, how much is a gsr full swap from the other places? I'm at work ATM __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jncominco2

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