little black boxes....government spying?

projectX · 07-09-2007, 07:44 PM

yup you guessd it...it may not be new...but this is the first time ive herd about it...on the news today they had a cop talk about some ol guy who hit 3 other cars ...and that they learnd he was going 85mph becouse the retrieved his "black box" from his car.......since when did we give up our rites to privacy and let the car manufacturers record all our data every time we drive...when did this go into effect..and how could i have missed it?...to me this is just wrong..i would never give my permission to any agency to record my driving habits....isent this domestic spying?..humm....im wondering in what year did this all start?..any one have any more info?

Jncominco2 · 07-09-2007, 08:32 PM

usually a "black box" referes to video/picture/audio evidence from a plane
never heard of it in a car...

projectX · 07-09-2007, 09:11 PM

i think it records speed and other statisticks per driveing session ..this includes direction and global position..from what i hear on the news...has me wondering

Jncominco2 · 07-09-2007, 09:41 PM

probably fairly new...

Velvet Jones · 07-09-2007, 11:49 PM

not really, the manufacturers are puttin in small monitoring deves that record throttle input, mph, rpm, and few other factors and then reports it to the manufacturer when the car is turned in for service and the ecu is diagnosed

Jncominco2 · 07-09-2007, 11:54 PM

glad i never take mine in to be serviced lol...oh well who cares...what are they gonna do about it?

Ricewhite01celicaGT · 07-10-2007, 12:18 AM

yup...BMW started this a while back, along with the self diagnostics at startup..records the last 15 key turns on the vehicle

sagvr4 · 07-10-2007, 12:46 AM

welcome to OBD II

Icepic · 07-10-2007, 12:26 PM

lol it would be funny to hack it so it says you drove at max rpm for 1,000,000 miles without turning off the key, just to see the look on their face.

Icepic · 07-10-2007, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectX

yup you guessd it...it may not be new...but this is the first time ive herd about it...on the news today they had a cop talk about some ol guy who hit 3 other cars ...and that they learnd he was going 85mph becouse the retrieved his "black box" from his car.......since when did we give up our rites to privacy and let the car manufacturers record all our data every time we drive...when did this go into effect..and how could i have missed it?...to me this is just wrong..i would never give my permission to any agency to record my driving habits....isent this domestic spying?..humm....im wondering in what year did this all start?..any one have any more info?

he could have just had this in his car.
http://www.autoanything.com/performa...0A1795386.aspx

ButcherRacing · 07-10-2007, 01:14 PM

Hissss boooo hissss boooooooooo

I drive the way I want to and "Black Boxs" suck grrrrrrrrr

The only time data loggers are cool are when you install one yourself but those ones have cool features like lap timers and G meters

oC007o · 07-10-2007, 01:21 PM

i knew that they had those they also record braking, allaround lights, and radio station you were listening to. Just kidding about the radio station thing.

TrappedDarkness · 07-10-2007, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sagvr4

welcome to OBD II

+1

GSRTURBO · 07-10-2007, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrappedDarkness

+1

+2

dsm_tuner260 · 07-10-2007, 10:11 PM

some where i hear that onstar was a governmebt test program to do the same thing. dont thing its true but you never know with the government the way it is now.

07-09-2007, 07:44 PM	#1
projectX Banned crashed! My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 610	little black boxes....government spying? yup you guessd it...it may not be new...but this is the first time ive herd about it...on the news today they had a cop talk about some ol guy who hit 3 other cars ...and that they learnd he was going 85mph becouse the retrieved his "black box" from his car.......since when did we give up our rites to privacy and let the car manufacturers record all our data every time we drive...when did this go into effect..and how could i have missed it?...to me this is just wrong..i would never give my permission to any agency to record my driving habits....isent this domestic spying?..humm....im wondering in what year did this all start?..any one have any more info?

07-09-2007, 08:32 PM	#2
Jncominco2 Subies are the shiz! 02 Subaru WRX My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah (ugh) Posts: 2,673	Re: little black boxes....government spying? usually a "black box" referes to video/picture/audio evidence from a plane never heard of it in a car... __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jncominco2

07-09-2007, 09:11 PM	#3
projectX Banned crashed! My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 610	Re: little black boxes....government spying? i think it records speed and other statisticks per driveing session ..this includes direction and global position..from what i hear on the news...has me wondering

07-09-2007, 09:41 PM	#4
Jncominco2 Subies are the shiz! 02 Subaru WRX My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah (ugh) Posts: 2,673	Re: little black boxes....government spying? probably fairly new... __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jncominco2

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Velvet Jones Method 4 Motorsport's Internet Salesman 01 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro Tip My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Method 4 Motorsports SF Posts: 676	Re: little black boxes....government spying? not really, the manufacturers are puttin in small monitoring deves that record throttle input, mph, rpm, and few other factors and then reports it to the manufacturer when the car is turned in for service and the ecu is diagnosed __________________ *FUK SHO LETS GO!* the motto of my sponsors: Oni-moto.com and Garaged Motorsports cafepress.com/onisf

07-09-2007, 11:54 PM	#6
Jncominco2 Subies are the shiz! 02 Subaru WRX My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Utah (ugh) Posts: 2,673	Re: little black boxes....government spying? glad i never take mine in to be serviced lol...oh well who cares...what are they gonna do about it? __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jncominco2

07-10-2007, 12:18 AM	#7
Ricewhite01celicaGT Stay pimpin' 2001 toyota celica gt My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 91	Re: little black boxes....government spying? yup...BMW started this a while back, along with the self diagnostics at startup..records the last 15 key turns on the vehicle __________________ "car models love cars. they even know what altezza lights are, and they think they are ugly"- Import tuner

07-10-2007, 12:46 AM	#8
sagvr4 Moderator '04 Subaru WRX wagon and '03 Suzuki SV1000s My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,193	Re: little black boxes....government spying? welcome to OBD II __________________ ~Scott

07-10-2007, 12:26 PM	#9
Icepic lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way! 2003 Ford Taurus SEL My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Butte, MT Posts: 821	Re: little black boxes....government spying? lol it would be funny to hack it so it says you drove at max rpm for 1,000,000 miles without turning off the key, just to see the look on their face. __________________ 3315lbs of scrap metal and plastic. A.K.A. FORD.

07-10-2007, 01:14 PM	#11
ButcherRacing Charlie 40 Hands Hyundai Sonata My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 683	Re: little black boxes....government spying? Hissss boooo hissss boooooooooo I drive the way I want to and "Black Boxs" suck grrrrrrrrr The only time data loggers are cool are when you install one yourself but those ones have cool features like lap timers and G meters __________________ If it wasn't for my horse, I would never have spent that year in college.

07-10-2007, 01:21 PM	#12
oC007o CliPseR 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 121	Re: little black boxes....government spying? i knew that they had those they also record braking, allaround lights, and radio station you were listening to. Just kidding about the radio station thing.

07-10-2007, 10:11 PM	#15
dsm_tuner260 PROJECT DSM 90 eagle talon tsi awd My Page \| My Pics \| My Ads Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 698	Re: little black boxes....government spying? some where i hear that onstar was a governmebt test program to do the same thing. dont thing its true but you never know with the government the way it is now. __________________ if its not built to be beat on it's not built right.

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