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Feb 2008 ROTM Winner!
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okay, i have been searching for a long time now for anyone successfully running the emange in the srt4. lots of people say they have the solutions but thats as far as the information goes, which leads me to beleive that someone else solved the problem. i have tried and will continure to try diffrent set-ups with blue until i come across something meaningful. if you have questions or input into this conversation feel free to add a comment. if you want to talk about wheel hop or how your daddys car is faster then mine, take it somewhere else. e-manage only!!!!!!!!
with that said, this is the set up im running those are all my current modifications. this is the settings i have entered into my e-manage A.) Boost: Set__? (not sure how to determine this) Gain__?(not sure how to determine this) Start__?(not sure how to determine this) Overtake: Time: Duty Rate__? Auto/Man: Set__%? Gain Start__psi B.) Set Up: 1.) Car Select: # of cyl. _4_ Throttle Sensor Type. _normal_ Speed Meter Pulse. _2P_ Unit Select. _PSI_ 2.) Warning: Led. _flash2_ Alarm. _flash2_ Boost. _32_psi limiter. _-60_% Ext input: AFR 3.) Peak Hold Peak Hold._Peak_ Last Boost._on_ 4.) Analog Input ch1 ch2 Name. AFR ___ Unit. A/F ___ Volt. 0.00~5.00 0.00~5.00 conversion. 10.00~75.50 ___ Warning._16.0_A/F Located. _-_ 5.) Pulse Input ch1 ch2http://my.prostreetonline.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif name. pl ch1 pl ch2 unit. _-__ _-__ Warning. _0_ _0_ Located. _-__ _-__ 6.) Analog Input: Analog(checked) Analog Input. _AFR_ Clamp Volt. _5.00_v Located. _-__ Pulse(not checked) Pulse Input. _PL Cha1_ Hz/RPM. _0-2000_ volt. _0.00~5.00_ 7.) Throttle: Select. _e-manage_ Setting: now. _0.84_ min._0.78_ max._4.09_ 8.) Warning Meter: Meter Type._A/F_ Unit. _%_ C.) Display D.) E-Manage 1.) Parameter: Greddy PR. Sensor (checked) Airflow Change _TY-PR-2__* Injector Change. before_750cc_ after_750cc = 1.000 Map Select: ignition adjustment map (not used) sub injector map (not used) boost limit cut (used) anti engine stall (not used) add injector map (not used) airflow adjustment map (used) vtech (not used) Boost Limiter Cut: RPM 50 100 150 200 250 300 350 400 450---->800 Clamp 4.20 4.25 4.30 4.35 4.40 4.45 4.60 4.60 4.60 4.60 Air Flow Adjustment Map: (in need of a good base map to work from) this is not a great set up to start with, i'm looking for suggestions or maps to help me out. |
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ghasp!....man..thats when i take my ride down to mercedes..i dont bunderstand any of that crap...i hope things work out for ya and now im curious about a piggy back system...would be kinda cool to controll all those functions.
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Feb 2008 ROTM Winner!
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its nice when you have unlimited funds for dyno time or are up for a decent challenge. i would recommend the piggy back, especially if you want to run stand-alone someday, its like a stepping stone. talk to people though, make sure you find the best parts or systems for your car. like greddy's system gives tons of flexibility but a lot of the functions available are only for Japaneses cars. try companies like abd or apr, they specialize in German automobiles and would most likely have some intel for you. -dssrt4
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They call me the Fireman
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Deep, have you tried contacting Greddy directly to see what they said? They maybe able to help you setup a base line for tuning. I used to have the basic knowledge of the all that stuff but I haven't messed with an Emanage in quite a while (I forgot how to ride this bicycle). But, I woul try contacting Greddy and maybe even Dodge to see if either of them coul dput you in the right direction. Definately Greddy for the settings and description of the settings. Dodge for the base map of airflow (they should beable to pull this info up).
Chris
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1998 Honda CRV RAI, MSD Ignition, fully shaved up body and door panels, air ride, train horns, stewart warner guages, ITR fuel rail and B&M modified ITR FPR, Bazooka subs, clarion components, alpine head unit, See my page for full Mod list |
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Feb 2008 ROTM Winner!
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i stopped by a dealership a while back and to paraphrase what they told me; my car is too far off the OEM horse for their help, which is fine; i knew that getting into this. hell i tried to get a intake manifold gasket at the dealership but they told me they don't sell the part alone, to get the gasket for my srt i would have to buy a new ram. dealerships, go figure. greddy's help desk was perplexed also, they don't know of any car in japan named srt4 therefore it doesn't exist. i have found a shop that is "emanage certified" here but, i am really cautious about letting "certified" people touch my car. i'm looking for people who struggle through this like me, but have found the daylight. i know that it veries from car to car but starting a good dialog with people who are in a similar situation trying different things is my ultimate goal.
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first let me say....thats an awsome goal...you are what i define as a true racer/moder...2nd...unfortunatly only a few companys still produce after market parts for my w126 chasis..and sad to say..there oem...i am investigating some software and a piggy that might work...i have toi be super coutious becouse if i make an error and it cost me an engine..thats like 6k for a junky replacement..ill keep ya up on my progress..i still have lots to learn about system management anyways......i do have one last comment thou "your goal is inspiering"..keep it up!
Project X <-----Kant Shpeel |
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Feb 2008 ROTM Winner!
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thanks, i wish i knew more about the German engineered vehicles, like your benz or even my wifes vdub. thanks for props on my goal but it seems that we are the only two interested in piggy backs or any kind of fuel management. i will master this thing if it kills me but the emanage...will be mine! ha - dssrt4
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we are not the only ones...there are lots intertested in them here..just atm they are on a diffent stage or mod...and we do have some young ones allso..that will someday look back at these post with awe
..and begin to understand the benifits...kinda makes me feel like socretes..lol |
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Feb 2008 ROTM Winner!
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alright, drink some more of this delicious hemlock buddy! kidding. im going to try some new numbers tomorrow and if it works i will post them to be read throughout the ages. my grandkids grandkids will look at these maps and say;...what an idiot, this crap is all off, wtf was he thinking.
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hahah...na man...pioneers often fail many times before the succeed...i wish ya luck...allso..can ya link me where ya got your piggy so i can take a look please..thanks
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Feb 2008 ROTM Winner!
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its still a work in progress but im getting the afr down around 11.8-1 but the cars pcm keeps wanting to kick it up to 14.7-1, so i have to keeping finding ways to trick the computer without having to dump a bunch of fuel into the system. its getting there, i will figure out the boost once i have good afr across the rpm band. kicking and s
creaming.... |
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They call me the Fireman
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I had an E-manage on my car back when it was Supercharged, but I had it professionally done by T2 race performance in Garland, Tx and all they did was a basic street tune. Worked great but now that I am N/A again I didnt need it so I just removed it and have it sitting aside waiting to be sold.
Chris
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1998 Honda CRV RAI, MSD Ignition, fully shaved up body and door panels, air ride, train horns, stewart warner guages, ITR fuel rail and B&M modified ITR FPR, Bazooka subs, clarion components, alpine head unit, See my page for full Mod list |
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They call me the Fireman
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I had an E-manage back when my car was supercharged but since I am N/A again I removed it. I had it street tuned by T1 Race Development in Garland, Tx. THey did a great job. But I am told they are primarily a honda/acura shop. You may give them a shout. I think their website is http://t1racedevelopment.com. You might give them a shout and see what they can do for you.
Chris
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1998 Honda CRV RAI, MSD Ignition, fully shaved up body and door panels, air ride, train horns, stewart warner guages, ITR fuel rail and B&M modified ITR FPR, Bazooka subs, clarion components, alpine head unit, See my page for full Mod list |
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