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Old 07-02-2007, 12:44 PM   #1
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Default efi, piggy back fuel systems, e-manage/e01

okay, i have been searching for a long time now for anyone successfully running the emange in the srt4. lots of people say they have the solutions but thats as far as the information goes, which leads me to beleive that someone else solved the problem. i have tried and will continure to try diffrent set-ups with blue until i come across something meaningful. if you have questions or input into this conversation feel free to add a comment. if you want to talk about wheel hop or how your daddys car is faster then mine, take it somewhere else. e-manage only!!!!!!!!

with that said, this is the set up im running

those are all my current modifications. this is the settings i have entered into my e-manage

A.) Boost:
Set__? (not sure how to determine this)
Gain__?(not sure how to determine this)
Start__?(not sure how to determine this)
Overtake:
Time:
Duty Rate__?
Auto/Man:
Set__%?
Gain
Start__psi
B.) Set Up:
1.) Car Select:
# of cyl. _4_
Throttle Sensor Type. _normal_
Speed Meter Pulse. _2P_
Unit Select. _PSI_
2.) Warning:
Led. _flash2_
Alarm. _flash2_

Boost. _32_psi
limiter. _-60_%
Ext input: AFR
3.) Peak Hold
Peak Hold._Peak_
Last Boost._on_
4.) Analog Input
ch1 ch2
Name. AFR ___
Unit. A/F ___
Volt. 0.00~5.00 0.00~5.00
conversion. 10.00~75.50 ___

Warning._16.0_A/F
Located. _-_
5.) Pulse Input
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name. pl ch1 pl ch2
unit. _-__ _-__

Warning. _0_ _0_
Located. _-__ _-__
6.) Analog Input:
Analog(checked)
Analog Input. _AFR_
Clamp Volt. _5.00_v
Located. _-__

Pulse(not checked)
Pulse Input. _PL Cha1_
Hz/RPM. _0-2000_
volt. _0.00~5.00_
7.) Throttle:
Select. _e-manage_
Setting: now. _0.84_ min._0.78_ max._4.09_
8.) Warning Meter:
Meter Type._A/F_
Unit. _%_
C.) Display
D.) E-Manage
1.) Parameter:
Greddy PR. Sensor (checked)
Airflow Change _TY-PR-2__*
Injector Change. before_750cc_ after_750cc = 1.000
Map Select: ignition adjustment map (not used)
sub injector map (not used)
boost limit cut (used)
anti engine stall (not used)
add injector map (not used)
airflow adjustment map (used)
vtech (not used)
Boost Limiter Cut:
RPM 50 100 150 200 250 300 350 400 450---->800
Clamp 4.20 4.25 4.30 4.35 4.40 4.45 4.60 4.60 4.60 4.60
Air Flow Adjustment Map:
(in need of a good base map to work from)

this is not a great set up to start with, i'm looking for suggestions or maps to help me out.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:52 AM   #2
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Default Re: efi, piggy back fuel systems, e-manage/e01

ghasp!....man..thats when i take my ride down to mercedes..i dont bunderstand any of that crap...i hope things work out for ya and now im curious about a piggy back system...would be kinda cool to controll all those functions.
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:03 PM   #3
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Default Re: efi, piggy back fuel systems, e-manage/e01

its nice when you have unlimited funds for dyno time or are up for a decent challenge. i would recommend the piggy back, especially if you want to run stand-alone someday, its like a stepping stone. talk to people though, make sure you find the best parts or systems for your car. like greddy's system gives tons of flexibility but a lot of the functions available are only for Japaneses cars. try companies like abd or apr, they specialize in German automobiles and would most likely have some intel for you. -dssrt4
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:17 PM   #4
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Deep, have you tried contacting Greddy directly to see what they said? They maybe able to help you setup a base line for tuning. I used to have the basic knowledge of the all that stuff but I haven't messed with an Emanage in quite a while (I forgot how to ride this bicycle). But, I woul try contacting Greddy and maybe even Dodge to see if either of them coul dput you in the right direction. Definately Greddy for the settings and description of the settings. Dodge for the base map of airflow (they should beable to pull this info up).

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Old 07-05-2007, 11:06 PM   #5
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i stopped by a dealership a while back and to paraphrase what they told me; my car is too far off the OEM horse for their help, which is fine; i knew that getting into this. hell i tried to get a intake manifold gasket at the dealership but they told me they don't sell the part alone, to get the gasket for my srt i would have to buy a new ram. dealerships, go figure. greddy's help desk was perplexed also, they don't know of any car in japan named srt4 therefore it doesn't exist. i have found a shop that is "emanage certified" here but, i am really cautious about letting "certified" people touch my car. i'm looking for people who struggle through this like me, but have found the daylight. i know that it veries from car to car but starting a good dialog with people who are in a similar situation trying different things is my ultimate goal.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:21 PM   #6
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first let me say....thats an awsome goal...you are what i define as a true racer/moder...2nd...unfortunatly only a few companys still produce after market parts for my w126 chasis..and sad to say..there oem...i am investigating some software and a piggy that might work...i have toi be super coutious becouse if i make an error and it cost me an engine..thats like 6k for a junky replacement..ill keep ya up on my progress..i still have lots to learn about system management anyways......i do have one last comment thou "your goal is inspiering"..keep it up!

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Old 07-06-2007, 10:13 PM   #7
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Default Re: efi, piggy back fuel systems, e-manage/e01

thanks, i wish i knew more about the German engineered vehicles, like your benz or even my wifes vdub. thanks for props on my goal but it seems that we are the only two interested in piggy backs or any kind of fuel management. i will master this thing if it kills me but the emanage...will be mine! ha - dssrt4
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we are not the only ones...there are lots intertested in them here..just atm they are on a diffent stage or mod...and we do have some young ones allso..that will someday look back at these post with awe..and begin to understand the benifits...kinda makes me feel like socretes..lol
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Old 07-07-2007, 11:32 PM   #9
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alright, drink some more of this delicious hemlock buddy! kidding. im going to try some new numbers tomorrow and if it works i will post them to be read throughout the ages. my grandkids grandkids will look at these maps and say;...what an idiot, this crap is all off, wtf was he thinking.
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hahah...na man...pioneers often fail many times before the succeed...i wish ya luck...allso..can ya link me where ya got your piggy so i can take a look please..thanks
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try exhaustdepot.com or mohdparts.com they both carry the emanage
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rite on thanks...whats the conclution with your monstrossaty?
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its still a work in progress but im getting the afr down around 11.8-1 but the cars pcm keeps wanting to kick it up to 14.7-1, so i have to keeping finding ways to trick the computer without having to dump a bunch of fuel into the system. its getting there, i will figure out the boost once i have good afr across the rpm band. kicking and s creaming....
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I had an E-manage on my car back when it was Supercharged, but I had it professionally done by T2 race performance in Garland, Tx and all they did was a basic street tune. Worked great but now that I am N/A again I didnt need it so I just removed it and have it sitting aside waiting to be sold.

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I had an E-manage back when my car was supercharged but since I am N/A again I removed it. I had it street tuned by T1 Race Development in Garland, Tx. THey did a great job. But I am told they are primarily a honda/acura shop. You may give them a shout. I think their website is http://t1racedevelopment.com. You might give them a shout and see what they can do for you.

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