My Pro Street
Pro Street Store Order Status Gallery Classifieds Arcade Motorsports Groups New Rides Get Sponsored Affiliates
Go Back   My Pro Street > Do It Yourself > Honda and Acura Tech Tips and How To > Fuel
Register Top Rides FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Welcome to the My Pro Street community! Register here! - It takes less than 1 minute... we timed it!

By joining you can Create your personal FREE car webpage!, Upload and share pictures FREE, Chat with other members, Ask or share tech advice with other members, and much much more! Here are some sample pages our members have created... it's all FREE!:

mr_240sx | trtrex | birdizzle256 | chipzxb | cobraR | dsm_tuner260 | sagvr4 | M3tor2nR

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-08-2006, 07:42 PM   #1
beak
Pro Street Racer
 
beak's Avatar
 

My Page | My Pics | My Ads

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 891
Default Peak / Hold VS Saturated Injectors

There are two basic types of injectors that work on Honda and acura cars. How they operate are totally different. Let's take a look.

Peak and Hold:

Peak/hold injectors are low impedence, usually in the 1-4 ohm range. When the ecu calls for fuel to be injected, it sends out voltage via the wire clips until a certain current level is reached (the peak part) (varies by injector size, company). For the duration of 1 pulse width, that current is slightly reduced and held (the hold part).

Advantages of this design:

* minimizes the injectors "on" time, resulting in faster response

Disadvantages of this design:

* increases coil heat, which can lead to failure over time



Saturated:

Saturated injectors are generally higher impedence than peak and hold, running in about the 10-15 ohms range. Unlike peak/hold, a saturated injector remains "on" for the entire pulse width.

Advantages of this design:

* reduces heat

Disadvantages of this design:

* slower response time
* can't handel large CC or lb/hr styles due to limitations in its speed.



So, which should I choose?

There are a ton of factors involved in this.

* First, power level. If you're going big, there simply won't be a saturated injector that will support your power level. The largest common saturated injecotrs on the market are 550cc, with 440cc being a common "cap" in saturated size. Most boosted people run peak/hold setups for not only their availibilty, but also their ease of upgrading later on if so desired. simply swap the injectors. no need to re-wire again.
* How is your car wired? most obd0 civics and some preludes are wired for peak/hold and have a resisitor box already. No point in changing to a saturated. Obd1+2 civics, and most other honda/acura cars after 1992 are all saturated and are not wired with resisitor boxes. Again, if there is an injector availble in your power range for flow of your car's design type, there's little sense to change.
* Price. DSM eclipse/talon 450cc peak and hold injectors fit honda rails and with just a minor modification plug right in. best of all, these can be had for about $50-75 a set of 4 instead of $350+ for a set of aftermarket injectors. Add a $25 resistor box from an obd0 civic/crx, wire it up, and you're good to go in you're saturated car.

in a later article, we will cover the injector resistor box install procedure.

Original article:
http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-ar...jectors-30347/

By pissedoffsol
__________________
Don't fry bacon when you're naked.

96 EK Hatch 343whp, and 245ft/lb torque at 11psi - Stock GSR Motor
beak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 12:48 PM   #2
teggy_chaser
Jr Pro Street Member
 
teggy_chaser's Avatar
 

My Page | My Pics | My Ads

Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 19
Send a message via AIM to teggy_chaser Send a message via Yahoo to teggy_chaser
Default

whens that article about wireing the injector resistor box install procedure for peak and hold set up gona come out... lol just kiddin anyway found your article intreguing.... iv got 97 acura integra obd 2 i believe... if i go with a turbo set up would it be more benifical to hook up a peak and hold set up? or to stick with the saturated set up?
teggy_chaser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2006, 12:43 AM   #3
lostdeception
Pro Street Member
 

My Page | My Pics | My Ads

Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 30
Default

Just stick with the saturated injector style. But you might want to switch to OBD-1 injector plugs because of themore options in injector sizes that you can go with. It all depends on what your setup is going to be.
lostdeception is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Pro Street Motorsports My Pro Street Community

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2006-2009 Pro Street Online, Inc.